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reacted to Banaxi-Tech's post with 🔥 about 10 hours ago
Today we wanted to release BananaMind 2 Pico, our smallest model yet at ~0.9M parameters. Instead, we accidentally ran a very expensive experiment on what happens when you push a tiny model way past its useful token budget.
Short version: we trained on 200B tokens (~222K:1 tokens-per-parameter). The model peaked at 20B tokens with an INT Index of 4.55, then degraded monotonically over the next 160B to 3.31 — a 27% regression. Three of four Open SLM benchmarks were worse at the end of training than they were at 10% through.
The useful compute-optimal range for Pico-tier models looks like ~22K–30K tokens per parameter. Ratios like 7K:1, 15K:1, and 22K:1 all work fine — TinyStories and most sub-3M community models sit in this range. Push much further and benchmarks start rotting.
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Full writeup with all checkpoints, the Chinchilla-ratio control run, and the schedule-vs-overtraining analysis: https://huggingface.co/blog/Banaxi-Tech/ovdadadadd
And if anyone, i dont know the reason why you would, wants the 20B token checkpoint reply and ill upload it as BananaMind 2.1 Pico EXP upvoted an article about 10 hours ago
Extreme Overtraining in Tiny Language Models liked a model about 13 hours ago
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